Jane Goodall Hopecast Podcast Ep 15: Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

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Episode 15 with Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson ‘Hope Is Courage and Taking Action Together

On this episode, the fireside chat finale, Dr. Jane Goodall chats with someone very special, who shares in Jane’s spirit and drive to create a better world for all – Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson. Dr. Johnson is a marine biologist, policy expert, author, as well as founder of Urban Ocean Lab and co-author of the Blue New Deal. Johnson also co-created and co-hosts the podcast, ‘How to Save a Planet’, and is the co-editor of the successful book and project ‘All We Can Save.’ Though Ayana first fell in love with the natural world under water while Jane was enchanted with forests, they share a similar story of early childhood imagination sparked by experiences in the outdoors. The two also share their passion for using language, storytelling, and community to activate individual and collective action. As both imagine a better world for people, other animals, and the planet we share, they invite magic and meaning into the minds of those who want to get involved and are not yet sure how. In the episode, Jane and Ayana discuss the true and dynamic meaning of ‘Hope,’ and why we each have a role to play in the environmental and climate renaissance of today.   

At the End of the Rainbow: Stay to the end of the episode to hear a rare archival clip of Jane on perseverance from the first National Geographic film to air on television in 1965, “Miss Goodall and the Wild Chimpanzees” narrated by Orson Welles.  

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Stay tuned…Episode 16, our final episode of season 1 of the Jane Goodall Hopecast and our final mailbag with submissions from YOU our Hopecasters is coming soon! 

Join us Hopecasters, you are reason for hope.  

SUBMIT TO OUR MAILBAG: You also have the chance to submit for the opportunity to be featured in our mailbag episodes! Share what your greatest reasons for hope are, questions, and/or stories of being inspired by Jane for a chance to be featured. 


BECOME AN OFFICIAL HOPECASTER: And that’s not all – the Jane Goodall Hopecast is a movement fueled by hope and driven by the action of each and every one of you, our Hopecasters. To keep hope alive and help transform it into real change, you have the opportunity to support the Jane Goodall Hopecast today! By becoming an official Hopecaster, you’ll get access to a special Hopecaster gift, and other exclusive podcast opportunities. Join us as a Hopecaster, making this podcast and movement possible as we get curious, grow compassion, and take action to build a brighter tomorrow. 

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About Author

Ashley Sullivan is the Communications & Policy Officer at the Jane Goodall Institute, where she works to connect individuals with Dr. Goodall's vision, and the JGI mission. Ashley graduated Stony Brook University with a B.A. in Anthropology and a minor in Biology, and is currently pursuing a MS in Environmental Science & Policy at Johns Hopkins University. She has a varied background including conservation, art, communications, digital media, design, photography, and documentary filmmaking. Ashley believes in sharing information to empower and in magic of storytelling to change hearts and minds. Through growing understanding and empathy, she believes it is possible to ignite positive change, every day.