Jane Goodall Hopecast PODCAST EP 7 – Razan Al Mubarak

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Episode 7 with Razan Al Mubarak – Hope is Empowering Individuals and Centering Community 

On this episode, Dr. Jane Goodall chats with someone she has joined forces with and has admired for years – Her Excellency Razan Al Mubarak. Jane and Razan have a similar sensibility around both the vital importance of a connection to nature and the essential aspect of working with diverse people across sectors to accomplish change. Dr. Goodall and Razan celebrate the power of young changemakers through the Roots & Shoots program, of which Razan helped to establish a chapter in the United Arab Emirates (UAE). Razan and Jane also discuss the often-forgotten tragedy of biodiversity loss, which has been in many ways overshadowed by the Climate Destabilization Crisis. On this front, they build on each other’s thoughts on how they are different and yet interrelated, and what can be done by individuals and the global community. Razan shares some of her favorite poems and philosophical thoughts on hope and the inherent value of nature, and encourages everyone with the message that, “We need pessimism of the mind and optimism of the heart.” 

At the End of the Rainbow: Stay to the end of the episode to hear a rare archival clip of Jane reflecting on our planet’s two “lungs.” 


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Stay tuned…Episode 8 Mailbag is coming soon! 

Join us Hopecasters, you are reason for hope.  

SUBMIT TO OUR MAILBAG: Now, you also have the chance to submit for the opportunity to be featured in our mailbag episodes! Share what your greatest reasons for hope are, questions for Jane, or stories of being inspired by Jane for a chance to be featured. 

BECOME AN OFFICIAL HOPECASTER: And that’s not all – the Jane Goodall Hopecast is a movement fueled by hope and driven by the action of each and every one of you, our Hopecasters. To keep hope alive and help transform it into real change, you have the opportunity to support the Jane Goodall Hopecast today! By becoming an official Hopecaster, you’ll get access to a special Hopecaster gift, early notice of new episodes, special discounts, and other exclusive podcast opportunities. Join us as a Hopecaster, making this podcast and movement possible as we get curious, grow compassion, and take action to build a brighter tomorrow. 

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Ashley Sullivan is the Communications & Policy Officer at the Jane Goodall Institute, where she works to connect individuals with Dr. Goodall's vision, and the JGI mission. Ashley graduated Stony Brook University with a B.A. in Anthropology and a minor in Biology, and is currently pursuing a MS in Environmental Science & Policy at Johns Hopkins University. She has a varied background including conservation, art, communications, digital media, design, photography, and documentary filmmaking. Ashley believes in sharing information to empower and in magic of storytelling to change hearts and minds. Through growing understanding and empathy, she believes it is possible to ignite positive change, every day.